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A Piper Sandler recession indicator says an economic downturn could be here. This indicator typically precedes official NBER recession announcements by about four months. But Chief Investment Strategist Michael Kantrowitz says stocks should still rise in the near-term. Popular recession indicators like the Treasury yield curve and The Conference Board's Leading Economic Index have been signaling for over a year now that a downturn is ahead. Last week, a lesser-known gauge — with just as impressive a track record — joined their ranks in warning of trouble ahead for the US economy.
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Read previewJust seven stocks accounted for the lion's share of returns for the S&P 500 in 2023. Piper SandlerIn a January 23 note to clients, he said that only three of the seven stocks are well-positioned to keep rising, while two are in a more neutral position and another two are loaded with "red flags." When analyzing the seven stocks, he looked at fundamental traits that make them a strong buy, as well as downside risks to the companies. On fundamentals, Alphabet and Meta each scored a one and Apple came in right behind with a two. But the remaining two stocks in the group — Tesla (TSLA) and Nvidia (NVDA) had a ton of downside risks, he said.
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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailYields will end the year lower than where they are now, says Piper Sandler's Michael KantrowitzMichael Kantrowitz, chief investment strategist at Piper Sandler, joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss how the strategist is parsing through the earnings results thus far, if there are still hopes for a bond rally, and more.
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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailRemain in high-quality stocks that can withstand volatile macro backdrop: Piper Sandler's KantrowitzMichael Kantrowitz, chief investment strategist at Piper Sandler, joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss the big surprise to Kantrowitz investment thesis going into the year, what the firm's price target will theorize, and more.
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Right now, it's up 7.7% year-over-year and continues to rise, prompting Kantrowitz to say it's a "huge red flag for me." Still, while the unemployment rate is up to 3.9% from its 3.4% low earlier this year, unemployment claims have not spiked meaningfully. Piper Sandler"Regarding employment – I see enough data that has me convinced that we are at the very onset of a recession right now," Kantrowitz said. If the unemployment rate continues to tick upward, even slightly, it will likely trigger the Sahm rule mentioned above. Plenty of market onlookers see a recession in 2024, including DoubleLine Capital CEO Jeffery Gundlach and Citadel founder Ken Griffin.
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The US economy added just 150,000 jobs, under the expected 180,000, and the unemployment rate rose to 3.9%, now 0.5% higher than its low earlier this year. Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis/Bullandbearprofits.comSecond, the inverted yield curve is starting to steepen. An inverted yield curve has been an extremely reliable recession indicator over the last several decades. Bullandbearprofits.com"Proven leading indicators show that the unemployment rate is likely to start rising materially soon. Piper SandlerIn addition to the yield curve and employment indicators above, other recession indicators continue to point to a downturn ahead.
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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailMarkets will stay between a soft and hard landing, says Piper Sandler's Michael KantrowitzMichael Kantrowitz, chief investment strategist at Piper Sandler, joins 'Power Lunch' to discuss his market outlook, job numbers, and more.
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In a recent note to clients, Kantrowitz highlighted unemployment claims data leading up to the Great Recession. But looking at the revised data, a clearer trend starts in September of 2007, he said. Looking at prior yield curve inversions, it's taken more than 12 months for jobless claims to start to meaningfully trend upward. Piper SandlerAnother indicator that tells Kantrowitz that jobless claims are going to start increase is — interestingly enough — furniture sales. For example, Bank of America and JPMorgan strategists both walked back their 2023 recession calls earlier this year.
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It's even tougher to buy a home right now than it was during the peak of the mid-2000s housing bubble. For one, the labor market remains very strong, meaning demand will be supported — if people still have jobs, they still have money coming in to save for a home. Goldman SachsIn the Great Recession, rising unemployment hurt housing demand, bringing down home prices. Another reason Karoui thinks things are different today is what's happened in the adjustable-rate mortgage market. During the Great Recession, for example, unemployment stayed around current levels for several more months following Treasury yield curve inversion before rising meaningfully.
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The hikes scared investors into thinking a recession would be on the way. But today, the labor market remains strong and inflation is under 4%, prompting rosier outlooks about the fate of the US economy. Rate hikes take time to work their way into the economy. But their main adversary going forward is going to be the Fed, with inflation still elevated. The Consumer Price Index is at 3.7% year-over-year, and core inflation, which the Fed watches closely, is even higher at 4.3%.
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In theory, these higher interest rates push down demand and slow inflation by forcing companies to cut prices to attract stretched-thin customers. And Americans have been spending right through the higher interest rates: Personal consumption expenditures and retail sales numbers have continued to forge upward. But eventually, this attitude will wane as people realize that the higher rates aren't a flash in the pan. The Treasury yield curve measures the different interest rates that are paid out on various bonds issued by the US government. It's the same story every time, both Kantrowitz and Rosenberg say: Investors are bad at pricing in a recession before it unfolds.
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Yields on 10-year Treasury yields have surged well above 4%. With both stock valuations and interest rates high, stock prices could continue to fall. Yields on 10-year Treasury notes surged to 15-year highs this week, surpassing 4.3% for the first time since late 2007. This has put a damper on what was a 20% rally for the S&P 500 from January to the end of July. The median S&P 500 year-end price target among major Wall Street strategists is 4,300, just below the index's current price around 4,370.
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The inverted yield curve and The Conference Board's LEI are two indicators that inform his view. Instead, investors should be paying attention to indicators like the Treasury yield curve, The Conference Board's Leading Economic Index, and money growth. Here's the yield curve. And the start of a recession typically comes a bunch of of months after the yield curve inverts. The yield curve didn't invert until less than a year ago.
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The S&P 500 has rallied 17% year-to-date, but the Treasury yield curve and LEI point to a downturn. For Rosenberg, the difference is that we currently have an inverted yield curve, a recession signal that has preceded every downturn since the 1960s. An inverted yield curve means that rates on short-duration Treasurys rise higher than rates on long-duration Treasurys. The yield curve inverts often during Fed hiking cycles because short-term Treasury rates track closely along with the fed funds rate. The below chart shows the share of consecutive trading days where the yield curve has been inverted.
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John Hussman warns that valuations, investor sentiment, and market technicals are poor right now. A recipe for stock market disasterOn valuations, Hussman likes to compare total market cap of non-financial stocks to total revenue of non-financial stocks. His criteria for technical overextension include an S&P 500 14-day relative strength index above 70, at least a 4% rate-of-change for the S&P 500 in the last 14-day period, and the S&P 500 at least 4.5% above its 50-day average. The chart below shows advances and declines for the S&P 500 in the 40 trading sessions after these criteria have been met. Piper SandlerOutside of technicals, however, macroeconomic fundamentals will likely be a main driver of market returns in the months ahead.
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Manufacturing data, inflation data, market breadth, and high rates are warning signals, he says. Bullandbearprofits.comShort-term Treasury rates remaining elevated prove the Fed is going to continue raising rates, Wolfenbarger said. The ISM PMI Manufacturing Index is currently at 46, and readings below 50 mean the economy is contracting. Bullandbearprofits.comAll of this amounts to a bearish outlook for stocks, Wolfenbarger believes. Some in the market are growing fatigued of the recession forecasts as the market surges back toward all-time-highs.
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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailWatch CNBC's full interview with Michael Kantrowitz, Kathryn Rooney Vera and Gene MunsterMichael Kantrowitz, Piper Sandler, Kathryn Rooney Vera, StoneX, and Gene Munster, Deepwater, join 'Last Call' to talk the ongoing market rally and what could derail it.
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In this videoShare Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailNow is the time to rotate out of overextended growth stocks, says StoneX's Kathryn Rooney VeraMichael Kantrowitz, Piper Sandler, Kathryn Rooney Vera, StoneX, and Gene Munster, Deepwater, join 'Last Call' to talk the ongoing market rally and what could derail it.
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Plus, falling inflation means weaker pricing power, and therefore weaker revenue growth, Kantrowitz said. If you look at long-term earnings growth, we're sitting near record-low levels. Long-term growth expectations, shown in gray, are near all-time lows. The PEG ratio takes into account longer-term future earnings, as opposed to the more present-based price-to-earnings ratio. He added: "For all intents and purposes, the PEG ratio has never been higher in a normalized backdrop."
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In this videoShare Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailEarnings growth is expected to decline further this year, says Piper Sandler's Michael KantrowitzMichael Kantrowitz, chief investment strategist at Piper Sandler, joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss recession concerns hinging on employment data, avoiding cyclical investments, and a sector neutral portfolio model.
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It also doesn't offer a fair characterization of the entire S&P 500's performance. Hussman's preferred valuation measure is total market cap of non-financial stocks to total revenue of non-financial stocks. According to Bank of America, 80% of the S&P 500's returns over a 10-year period can be attributed to valuations. The red line in the chart below shows the gauge, while the blue is the S&P 500's price action. Predicted in April 2007 that the S&P 500 could lose 40%, then it lost 55% in the subsequent collapse from 2007 to 2009.
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Stocks are once again in a bull market, with the S&P 500 now up more than 20% since October's lows. Nearly all of the recent rally can also be attributed to the index's top 10 stocks, he said. "During the late-90s tech bubble, over one-third of returns came from these mega-cap stocks," Wool said. "In the recent bull run, by contrast, almost the entire market return was accounted for by just ten companies' performance." A 15% decline would put the S&P 500 at 3,800.
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This is mind, some strategists are urging investors to proceed with caution around the technology. Below, we've compiled quotes from strategists who are warning investors not to get caught up in the hype. For example, of the top-ten technology stocks at the peak of the Tech Bubble, only two remain in the top ten today," he continued. He said he plans on reducing his positions in some AI stocks. "The excitement about generative AI has distracted investors from the possible risks of a looming recession," Goodwin said on June 6.
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.SPX YTD mountain S & P 500's 2023 performance Technology stocks have gotten a boost this year as enthusiasm around artificial intelligence grows, and the recent banking crisis resets expectations for Federal Reserve policy. The majority of S & P 500 technology stocks still sit 20% off their peaks even as many popular names notch all-time highs. "We continue to favor profitable growth as an investment theme as we expect that the lagged effects of tightening will continue to weigh on economic growth," Kantrowitz said. A handful of outperforming semiconductor stocks and chip equipment manufacturers made Piper Sandler's list, including Broadcom , On Semiconductor , KLA Corp . SMCI YTD mountain Super Micro Computer shares in 2023 Piper Sandler also highlighted shares of the server and storage systems provider Super Micro Computer , which have more than tripled this year.
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